Raising Sinners

April 20, 2023


Our longtime friend Cheryl Scruggs joins us today to talk marriage, parenting and THRIVING!


Cheryl and her husband, Jeff, are biblical counselors and founders of Hope Matters Marriage Ministry.  Their book, “I Do Again” chronicles their story of marriage, divorce, and remarriage. They are passionate about seeing marriages changed, made whole and reconciled to God’s plan.  Cheryl and Jeff have two grown daughters and 3 grandchildren.


Our discussion on this episode centers around how women can thrive in good times, hard times and everything in between. In other words, we talk about thriving in LIFE.  “Abundant life isn’t perfect circumstances, it’s perfect peace within those circumstances.”


In her new book, “Thriving Beyond Belief – Courageous, Rooted, Thriving Women,” Cheryl provides practical tools to improve every relationship, tools to know the real you, and tips on becoming more vulnerable.


“It’s important to remember thriving doesn’t mean happy.  You can thrive in every season of life, even when you’re not necessarily happy.”


Cheryl’s book is available everywhere you get your books! She also hosts a podcast of the same name.  ☺ Connect with Cheryl @cherylscruggs and @thrivingbeyondbeliefbook.  You can also learn more about their ministry by going to www.jeffandcherylscruggs.com.

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About Raising Sinners

It all started in 2016 with Lisa Clark’s book, “Raising Sinners,” but she knew there was more to say. The Raising Sinners podcast tackles all the topics and questions parents have about raising their kids! Lisa and her co-host Chrissie Dunham, and the occasional special guest, cover it all: sibling rivalry, dating, and social media, but also discuss raising children who don’t fit the mold and even that pesky “mama guilt.” 

While sin can be fun in the moment, it’s never funny. Lisa and Chrissie walk this line well, finding light and laughter though the difficulties of parenting, but always having pointed, relatable, and reverent discussions that focus on God’s word and what the “manual” has to say about our parenting. 

Lisa and Chrissie have been podcasting together since 2018 through their other show, The Wonder Podcast. You can connect with them on Instagram @talkwithchrissieandlisa.

About Lisa Clark and Chrissie Dunham

Friends for several decades, Lisa Clark and Chrissie Dunham have lots of laughs and giggles teaching and sharing their life experiences on the podcast they co-host, The Wonder Podcast.  It has definitely been their outlet over the past 3 years to share stories, testimonies of God’s faithfulness and provide insights into what God is teaching them during this stage of life.

Adding to that outlet, they’ve joined the Christian Parenting Podcast network recently with the debut of their newest podcast, Raising Sinners. Their backgrounds are similar, having both been raised in Christian homes, college, marriage, and birthed two daughters. Chrissie is definitely the personality of the duo as Lisa laughs at all Chrissie’s jokes and quietly waits for her to take a breath so she can add a thing or two! But the second half of life has proven to be their favorite season thus far.

Empty nesting, grandparenting, time with family and friends, has filled their cup these last few years.  But along with life’s greatest blessings, comes great sorrow, and God has shown up continually, keeping His promises as a faithful, covenant keeping God.  “He walks with us in every season and makes Himself known.”  Chrissie and Lisa speak professionally to church groups, women’s events/conferences, retreats and more.  Lisa’s niche is parenting, and she authored “Raising Sinners” several years ago to chronicle her own parenting journey with an emphasis on biblical parenting.

For more information, please go to www.chrissiedunham.org and www.lisaclarkspeaks.com.


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