Living Wholehearted

June 06, 2023

Episode 184: What women need to know about finances and divorce with Amy Oliver

Today we want to talk about what women need to know before they consider divorce. There are a lot of confusing messages – especially in the church – about divorce. It’s hard because marriage is meant to be a beautiful image of God’s covenant with His people – what the Bible calls the “Bride of Christ”. We see this marital covenant reflected throughout scripture. We are for marriage and as a marriage and family therapist, I have spent decades helping good and hard marriages heal and repair. However, restoring a marriage where trust and commitment have been violated requires two parties. And there are times, when a spouse has to choose divorce because of unrepentant or repeated adultery or abuse. Many times women will stay because they are unsure they can survive financially. Often, leaders in the church are unsure how to help these women with practical steps. Though men can find themselves in this situation, today, for the sake of clarity, we will be talking mostly about women. We have Amy Oliver, of Healing House Solutions, with us today. She knows what it’s like to feel stuck in an unhealthy marriage and not see a financial way out. As a licensed realtor, Amy began by helping women in similar circumstances evaluate whether to keep or sell a family home, taking into consideration not just the financial, but the emotional aspects of that decision too. With the addition of training in divorce financial analysis, she guides and advocates for women as they assess their full financial picture, including budgets, assets, liabilities, child support, and spousal support needs. In this episode, Amy talks about the four reasons most women find themselves in this place: abuse, abandonment, adultery and addiction; the most common concerns women are facing; why women often stay in these toxic relationships; the biggest myths about divorce, and so much more.

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We define a leader as anyone with a following. Whether you are a parent or a CEO, or both, how you lead matters. When a leader lives with integrity, everyone in their wake benefits. And when they don't, everyone in their wake pays, it's just a matter of time. We are a husband and wife team HELPING LEADERS of all types LIVE WITH INTEGRITY through Biblical, Clinical, and Relational Wisdom. The Living Wholehearted Podcast is filled with grace, hope, and practical tools to help you in every relationship that matters most to you in your home, work, and community. Become a leader who is shrinking their integrity gap between what you say and how you actually live. Join us in the movement of becoming a Wholehearted Leader!

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About Jeff and Terra Mattson

Jeff Mattson (MA ORL) and Terra Mattson (MA LPC, LMFT) are Christian Parenting spokespeople and the co-hosts of the Living Wholehearted Podcast in the Christian Parenting Podcast Network.


After two decades studying and working in leadership and trauma-informed therapy, Jeff and Terra are bridging the gap between Biblical, clinical, and relational wisdom to help leaders live with integrity in the home, work, and community.


They are the co-founders of Living Wholehearted, a professional counseling and organizational development firm. Terra is the author of Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace and together they co-authored Shrinking the Integrity Gap: Between what Leaders Preach and Live. Jeff and Terra have skin in the game as they raise their two daughters just outside Portland, OR on five acres of old growth woods. There is never a dull moment in the Mattson home!


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