Living Wholehearted

March 29, 2022

Ep. 124 : Finding Courage to Celebrate with Nicole Zasowski, M.A. LMFT

The Mattsons sit down with Nicole Zasowski to talk about cultivating joy. Life can be hard. Trauma interferes with our hope. We start to expect the next disappointment or “the next shoe to drop”. Nicole Zasowski, a licensed marriage and family therapist, and author of What If It’s Wonderful?: An Invitation to Release Your Fears, Choose Joy, and Find the Courage to Celebrate (Thomas Nelson, March 8, 2022), invites us to practice the discipline of celebration. Even the word “discipline” makes Nicole cringe, but she shares the gold she finds on the other side. She opens up about her own losses and how she reached a point of not wanting to miss her God-given life in the throes of her grief. Nicole offers insights to why we struggle with celebration, how joy is really the most vulnerable place we can find ourselves, and how we can stay stuck in the shadows of our stories. Nicole says that the center of our joy determines the satiation of our joy, offering practical ways we can choose rhythms that foster, even double, our joy. Don’t miss this episode! If you like what you hear, make sure you share the link and leave a review! Read More

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About Living Wholehearted

We define a leader as anyone with a following. Whether you are a parent or a CEO, or both, how you lead matters. When a leader lives with integrity, everyone in their wake benefits. And when they don't, everyone in their wake pays, it's just a matter of time. We are a husband and wife team HELPING LEADERS of all types LIVE WITH INTEGRITY through Biblical, Clinical, and Relational Wisdom. The Living Wholehearted Podcast is filled with grace, hope, and practical tools to help you in every relationship that matters most to you in your home, work, and community. Become a leader who is shrinking their integrity gap between what you say and how you actually live. Join us in the movement of becoming a Wholehearted Leader!

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About Jeff and Terra Mattson

Jeff Mattson (MA ORL) and Terra Mattson (MA LPC, LMFT) are Christian Parenting spokespeople and the co-hosts of the Living Wholehearted Podcast in the Christian Parenting Podcast Network.


After two decades studying and working in leadership and trauma-informed therapy, Jeff and Terra are bridging the gap between Biblical, clinical, and relational wisdom to help leaders live with integrity in the home, work, and community.


They are the co-founders of Living Wholehearted, a professional counseling and organizational development firm. Terra is the author of Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace and together they co-authored Shrinking the Integrity Gap: Between what Leaders Preach and Live. Jeff and Terra have skin in the game as they raise their two daughters just outside Portland, OR on five acres of old growth woods. There is never a dull moment in the Mattson home!

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