Raising Sinners

December 01, 2022

Ep. 2.24 : Change is Hard with Debbie Stephens

Change is inevitable.  But all at one time? New city.  New church.  New friends.  New schools.  New home.  New dog (hey Moose!)


The Stephens family has experienced lots of change in the couple of years and we wanted to check in with the queen of the household herself, Mrs. Debbie Stephens! Wife, mom, speaker, teacher and funny girl, Debbie shares from her heart how they’ve navigated their new normal.


Debbie is married to Jarrett Stephens, senior pastor of Champion Forest Baptist Church in Northwest Houston, Texas.  They have 4 daughters and 2 dogs.  (Fun fact: both Jarrett and Debbie have been guests on The Wonder Podcast! )


“Obedience is costly but so worth it.”  Debbie Stephens


In obedience, the Stephens family left their life in the Dallas area and embarked on a new journey, but it wasn’t easy.


Teaching our children to be flexible is difficult on many levels because most find their security in routines and consistency.  Change is hard.  But the Stephens family has done it with grace and come out on the other side shining bright! Listen in to Debbie’s tips on communicating change with your kids and giving space to grieving, new schedules and making choices.


As always, thanks for listening! We appreciate you!


Lisa and Chrissie


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(Lisa Clark and Chrissie Dunham host Raising Sinners, a podcast launched September 2021 on Christian Parenting’s Podcast Network.  Lisa is the author of the book, “Raising Sinners” and she and Chrissie co-host The Wonder Podcast, as well. Check it out!)


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About Raising Sinners

It all started in 2016 with Lisa Clark’s book, “Raising Sinners,” but she knew there was more to say. The Raising Sinners podcast tackles all the topics and questions parents have about raising their kids! Lisa and her co-host Chrissie Dunham, and the occasional special guest, cover it all: sibling rivalry, dating, and social media, but also discuss raising children who don’t fit the mold and even that pesky “mama guilt.” 

While sin can be fun in the moment, it’s never funny. Lisa and Chrissie walk this line well, finding light and laughter though the difficulties of parenting, but always having pointed, relatable, and reverent discussions that focus on God’s word and what the “manual” has to say about our parenting. 

Lisa and Chrissie have been podcasting together since 2018 through their other show, The Wonder Podcast. You can connect with them on Instagram @talkwithchrissieandlisa.

About Lisa Clark and Chrissie Dunham

Friends for several decades, Lisa Clark and Chrissie Dunham have lots of laughs and giggles teaching and sharing their life experiences on the podcast they co-host, The Wonder Podcast.  It has definitely been their outlet over the past 3 years to share stories, testimonies of God’s faithfulness and provide insights into what God is teaching them during this stage of life.

Adding to that outlet, they’ve joined the Christian Parenting Podcast network recently with the debut of their newest podcast, Raising Sinners. Their backgrounds are similar, having both been raised in Christian homes, college, marriage, and birthed two daughters. Chrissie is definitely the personality of the duo as Lisa laughs at all Chrissie’s jokes and quietly waits for her to take a breath so she can add a thing or two! But the second half of life has proven to be their favorite season thus far.

Empty nesting, grandparenting, time with family and friends, has filled their cup these last few years.  But along with life’s greatest blessings, comes great sorrow, and God has shown up continually, keeping His promises as a faithful, covenant keeping God.  “He walks with us in every season and makes Himself known.”  Chrissie and Lisa speak professionally to church groups, women’s events/conferences, retreats and more.  Lisa’s niche is parenting, and she authored “Raising Sinners” several years ago to chronicle her own parenting journey with an emphasis on biblical parenting.

For more information, please go to www.chrissiedunham.org and www.lisaclarkspeaks.com.


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