Pardon the Mess Podcast (Ep 1.8): If You Only Knew

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Jamie Ivey joins us this week to talk about fear, control, shame, and vulnerability. Jamie and her husband Aaron Ivey are both biological and adoptive parents; she writes, speaks, and hosts a renowned Christian podcast “The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey.” As we discuss the parenting journey that the Lord has had the Iveys on (including adoption, being a working mother/parent, and work travel), Jamie shares about how vulnerability has transformed her friendships and her parenting. Together, we delve into the false gospel we preach with our lives if we, as believers, try and act like we have it all together — and how shame plays into inadvertently training our kids not to confess sin.

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